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and he said it's this way who's this is

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just Regan behind this and they wouldn't

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answer the question as to where it came

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and they so what happened was he said

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Paul Charlotte was there and then there

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was this Glenny Miller who was the first

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agent for Regan in Hollywood and he was

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running the place him and a governor

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Scott Kennett his first name Scott and

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these two guys one was the general one

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was a big huge PhD guy and so the

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general says I want you to pull the film

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Hynek was there he said I want you to

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pull all the UFO film and give it to

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honey and Paul McCardle says sorry sir

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III can't do that you need a requisition

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said goddamn I'll have your ass you pull

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a film

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I'm telling you pull all film for honey

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and he said no general I can't do it you

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need a requisition and Hynek and valet

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valet tells the story they actually

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pulled out because they realize they're

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gonna do the same thing they did with

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the Haldeman's story because they wanted

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Jack Olay and they wanted Hynek in on

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this documentary in the 1970s and they

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pulled out cuz they knew they were gonna

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valet called it the dangling carrot that

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they would pull the carrot at the last

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minute full of film and they would get

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burned on this film so they wouldn't do

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it and then a couple years ago like

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Bobby's kind of doesn't really remember

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too much about anymore but I a couple of

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years ago he was going to do another

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documentary he'll put off was working

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that's why I'm working in these kids who

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can see through the blindfold and the

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Chinese were doing this in the 1980s

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they had these kids who could see

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through blindfolds and the CIA was there

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and the CIA was investigating this of

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course because this could be technology

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like how does this work what can we

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learn from this and they were there and

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helped put up was involved because he

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was doing their remote doing and he was

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in this whole thing and he had told all

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these stories and showed some of the

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film's to Bob a manager so bob was gonna

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go with Alan Sandler and they actually

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went through the Defense Department and

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they went into second stage they went

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through to get all this stuff and then

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the Defense Department decided no they

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were gonna go and document these kids in

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China there's only a few years ago and

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do this sort of thing so that's how they

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Hollywood or an agent in Hollywood that

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they wanted me to do a thing they were

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gonna do a thing on the Avery so I think

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Pandolfi was behind this and they wanted

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to do a thing on the Avery on these guys

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but I said I don't do that Hollywood

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stuff I mean I'm a researcher I don't

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sit in front of a camera I don't

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memorize lines I don't Americans I'm not

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interested I'll help you whatever you

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want up and he told me that Pandolfi was

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in Hollywood and he was trying to get

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guy told me he said this ain't moot he

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told Pandolfi this ain't moving the

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needle

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nobody cares about Joe firmage and his

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trying to levitate and that's another

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example Joe Furman just spent 20 million

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bucks or whatever trying to levitate

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this thing at one inch off a table I

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mean if he's doing that and he's got all

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the money and connections to

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intelligence we don't have anything if

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we're trying to levitate some off table

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semi van was there is well trying to

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promote things on alien abduction he was

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trying to get it through Hollywood and

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that's what they're doing is they

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realized that that's the way you change

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consciousness that's the way you move

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the needle is you get somebody you put

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it on a TV so that a step deck isn't

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confronted because you can confront the

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skeptic face-to-face the guy says get

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out of here I'll shoot you you know get

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out of my life you bugging me but if you

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put it on TV the skeptic could turn on

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the TV and say oh this is a nun since

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I'll watch this thing I miss crazy stuff

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and watch it and doesn't realize that

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it's just a subliminal thing that you're

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watching it like like Close Encounters

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of the Third Kind was a real deal the

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same as I and I can't say who told me

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but et the extra-terrestrial apparently

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Spielberg's mother had said in an

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interview and I know the person did the

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interview said to me that she said you

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know that scene in et the

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extra-terrestrial with with the stuffed

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animals in the closet where you tease

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hiding - real story happened to Steven

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Spielberg now what it's like and so you

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fictional stuff you put the story out

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but you're able to hold it you don't

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want to lose the story you want to lose

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control the story and that's where I

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would say if the government wanted to

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disclose they would stand up and tell

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they're not covering up because if they

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wanted to cover up they do what the

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Canadians have done I was even asked the

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years I have no idea what Canadians are

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doing because they don't talk about it

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wouldn't know who to talk to I wouldn't

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know what department to go to the

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Americans talk at all the time so

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they're not covering up and they're not

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disclosing they're doing something

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this climatization so what happens is it

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put out this thing of 1962 said

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if you realize that there's ETS here you

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got acclimatize the people very slowly

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you've got acclimatize them so you

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acclimatizing you put all this stuff you

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pull it back nobody knows which story to

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believe you put in multiple stories and

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stuff like that

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all this stuff about Erik 51 and nobody

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can confirm anything and then when New

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York Times says oh it's for real the US

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Air Force or the government is doing the

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UFO study everybody goes ah big deal I

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knew that right yeah that's what we're

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going through today that's exactly and

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a few times I mean by that he should

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have been reading from a playbook you

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know by round 2 because it was the exact

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same situation and we find ourselves

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doing the exact same things today I

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think you're exactly right with all of

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that and I when we look at the Pentagon

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we look at TTS a of all of the

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revelations that came out with Leslie

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ourselves now - that's almost three

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years ago right it's gonna be three

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years grant and we're chasing our tails

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one of the things is that you've he look

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at the ASSA program who's the guy behind

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it was Bob Bigelow one Bigelow had the

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money Bob Bigelow is the guy that got

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this whole thing going and he does an

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member 7 years ago he says to him you

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gotta member this is just after the

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program shuts down nobody knows the

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you in favor of disclosure Bigelow says

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you get it confirmed yes this is for

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real and you'd say you don't say

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anything about 88 ETS or aliens or

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anything like that that's exactly what

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they did they just did the confirmation

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thing UFOs are it and you remember them

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it's nicely less chicane we're not

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saying aliens we're not saying this

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aliens you know let's say and you're

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backing away from that thing and what

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going to happen they're slowly moving

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you do season 1 season 2 see and they

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drop this sort of stuff in there and at

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the same time they do the the fear spin

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because you're trying to get money out

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of Congress you're trying to get piles

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of money to get it because if you can

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control us you control the biggest story

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of all times and that's why I think what

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they're trying to do when when we talk

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about Spielberg and his interest because

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work pretty much pretty much UFO UFO UFO

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it's been one film after another each

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one a little bit different the same a

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same basic story same messages there

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which would indicate Spielberg knows

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something but I don't think that's the

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big story the big story is the drip drip

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out of Hollywood and constantly giving

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us something the today grant you know

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it's it's fast radio bursts it's the

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discovery of new exoplanets it's it's

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communication it's the location of of

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possible life out there and what planets

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asteroid flybys oh Mulla Mulla all of

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of years indicates that the PlayBook is

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they're just doing it on steroids

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they've learned how to do it in fact

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really I get asked all the time why did

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they why did the Navy come back out and

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confirm this one that already confirmed

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it to release the videos and why did

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they do it in the middle of the pandemic

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mm-hmm and it's because that's how you

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do it

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you put it this is a just an expression

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this is a perfect time for bad news so

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you put it out in the middle of

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something we're a big story and nobody

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pays any attention and it gets out there

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the same as when did they do the New

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December 16th when all the reporters are

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ready to go home for Christmas nobody's

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doing any investigative reporting and

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when did they close down Bluebook

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it's the same playbook is you you do the

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same you put it out there where nobody

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really realizes what's going on the

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story gets out there and you let it

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float around you have plausible

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deniability and they are basically

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trying to as that's why I called the

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book managing

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magic it's it's it's a story that's not

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just UFOs it's all this paranormal stuff

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that's why they went to skinwalker ranch

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manifestations that happen at skinwalker

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ranch putting bulls in the trailer and

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stuff like that it really had not much

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to do with UFOs so it said managing that

272
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whole paranormal story getting it to go

273
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the same way so if you're doing a story

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if you could break a story saying you

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discover you're the CIA you say oh I'm

276
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gonna do this movie on the CIA the CIA

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comes up and says hey Jimmy I heard

278
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you're doing a movie on the CIA you're

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been to the CIA we'd like to go to CIA

280
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we'd like to talk to somebody I we can

281
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help you out and that's what they do

282
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they manage the story and that's what

283
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what's the name chase Brandon he was in

284
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Hollywood that was his job he was there

285
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to manage the stories to help people out

286
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to get the the CIA or is always the good

287
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guys the government's all they will help

288
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you do this whatever and you manage

289
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these stories instead of trying to kill

290
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somebody you either manage them or you

291
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throw mud in the water you put in a

292
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second story so if you've got a good

293
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story I'll put in another story that's

294
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exactly like yours for a different

295
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source that says something different now

296
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Jimmy church is full of it Jimmy Church

297
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is lying this guy's telling the truth

298
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and we start fighting with each other

299
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saying when when Linda and I had a thing

300
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the Holloman Air Force Base story Bob

301
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told me it was May of 1971 and he should

302
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know he was the guy who had the film in

303
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his possession

304
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so then Richard Doty comes out he says

305
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no no no it wasn't me thank you 71 it

306
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was 1964 and the aliens it was a white

307
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sands and they had the long wrong

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location it's like they only said the

309
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wrong location and it was 1964 so Linda

310
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starts telling in 1964 story I'm telling

311
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the 1971 story and it looks like you

312
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know one of us is lying and yet they put

313
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these two stories out there to sort of

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keep everybody off off base and just

315
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control the story just keep moving it

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down because it really doesn't matter

317
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how long it takes them to do it because

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I don't that's monomyth thinks the

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reason I think they're not releasing is

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I don't think they know as much as

321
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people think they know and it's the old

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game of play the cards but she already

323
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wants them to put their cards down on

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the table but the Russians are playing

325
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the game and the Chinese have playing

326
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the game if you put your cards down you

327
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give them what they want everybody's

328
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working on this thing because whoever

329
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controls this controls the world or

330
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suppose that's what they think if you

331
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can get this technology especially at

332
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the skinwalker ranch when you see the

333
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stuff that was going on in skinwalker

334
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ranch

335
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I mean you if you've got that kind of

336
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tech knowledge and that's why dia went

337
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in there they weren't really interested

338
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in UFOs they weren't interested in

339
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spiritual stuff

340
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paranormal they were just winters how do

341
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you get four balls into a locked trailer

342
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and you see the reports and it says

343
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stuff through metal metal walls and and

344
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that's the whole deal is the military's

345
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always looking at the the angle of

346
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weapons and cuz that's their job

347
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it's what laws under says I'm just here

348
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to protect I'm here he's doing the

349
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military thing that's what you're paid

350
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for and one of the problems that we have

351
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is is that there's really nobody in the

352
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government who really had like the

353
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Agriculture Department's not going to do

354
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it it really didn't fit into anybody's

355
00:11:44,210 --> 00:11:41,910
job description and that's why they've

356
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done the spin thing because you got a

357
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seven hundred thirty-five billion dollar

358
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defense budget who's going to miss

359
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another ten billion dollars to work on

360
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UFOs so that's where you go so instead

361
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of going to the aviation people that

362
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Leslie Cain did in the 1990s and 2000's

363
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you move it to the Defense Department

364
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you put the spin that these evil aliens

365
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are there and then that you scare the

366
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living daylights out of these senators

367
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shrubs from film and say you know you

368
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could be bad and the Gulf how much money

369
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do you want and they walk out with the

370
00:12:10,370 --> 00:12:09,060
money and but I still think the guys who

371
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are behind it a lot of them people who

372
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keep forgetting a lot of the guys who

373
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are behind this our experiences like Jim

374
00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:15,570
semi van had the beings in his room I

375
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mean they were in there and he went to

376
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Ron Pandolfi and he said you know these

377
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beings are in the room what what's the

378
00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:22,800
deal you're the UFO guy and he said you

379
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don't need to know

380
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and then somebody had said I don't need

381
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to know because he was covert ops head

382
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of covert ops for two years I don't need

383
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to know you bring your boss's boss in

384
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here what see who does know need to know

385
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and then supposedly they bring in

386
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tenants they had the director and he

387
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says leave it alone pretend it's a

388
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one-off

389
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just pretend it'll never happen again

390
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it'll ruin your career and as soon as he

391
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leaves he gets briefed and all he brings

392
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him in and briefs and that's exactly

393
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what kit Greene told Richard Dolan that

394
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the people in the government don't have

395
00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:52,740
the high security clearances but the

396
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minute you leave the government that's

397
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when you get the security clearance when

398
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you go to work for the contractor and

399
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they have it in the contractor world

400
00:13:02,210 --> 00:13:01,350
because it's not it's just you know

401
00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:02,220
there's no fya

402
00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:04,730
and on without an ability right yeah

403
00:13:09,290 --> 00:13:08,010
yeah and there's a there's another

404
00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:09,300
interesting product I'm going to come

405
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back after the break back to skinwalker

406
00:13:18,110 --> 00:13:15,240
but the inter-dimensional part of this

407
00:13:19,730 --> 00:13:18,120
where something seems to be I've seen

408
00:13:21,710 --> 00:13:19,740
enough of it and so of you

409
00:13:23,540 --> 00:13:21,720
something is phasing in and out of

410
00:13:26,660 --> 00:13:23,550
another reality another dimension

411
00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:26,670
parallel world I don't know how these

412
00:13:31,490 --> 00:13:29,430
things manifest themselves and when you

413
00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:31,500
see it at night and you see these things

414
00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:34,050
at night that's one thing I had a

415
00:13:38,870 --> 00:13:36,450
sighting with a group of friends that

416
00:13:40,190 --> 00:13:38,880
was in the middle of the day and I don't

417
00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:40,200
know if you've heard the story I'm not

418
00:13:45,020 --> 00:13:42,450
gonna waste a bunch of time on it now

419
00:13:46,010 --> 00:13:45,030
but we saw an object that was about 14

420
00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:46,020
miles away

421
00:13:52,010 --> 00:13:48,930
I'm gonna guess and say it was 400 maybe

422
00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:52,020
500 feet tall and it looked like a beer

423
00:13:56,690 --> 00:13:53,690
can

424
00:13:59,390 --> 00:13:56,700
spinning like this and then it was black

425
00:14:01,970 --> 00:13:59,400
had a round circle on it and it was huge

426
00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:01,980
it was giant we all saw it anyway it's

427
00:14:07,550 --> 00:14:04,010
moving across the sky grant like this

428
00:14:09,410 --> 00:14:07,560
spinning and then I went back to my

429
00:14:11,570 --> 00:14:09,420
binoculars three o'clock in the

430
00:14:14,890 --> 00:14:11,580
afternoon blue sky right there right

431
00:14:19,730 --> 00:14:14,900
right in front of us and it phased out

432
00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:19,740
this giant object that was physical it

433
00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:22,710
was silver on the top silver on the

434
00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:25,290
bottom black with this thing and it's

435
00:14:29,690 --> 00:14:27,330
doing and it's it's huge and we all see

436
00:14:34,310 --> 00:14:29,700
it Steve Marilla was there well anyway

437
00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:34,320
it it disappeared in the middle of the

438
00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:37,650
sky in front of everybody now what does

439
00:14:44,540 --> 00:14:41,040
that suggest you know that's the ability

440
00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:44,550
to appear and disappear or go into

441
00:14:48,380 --> 00:14:46,410
another dimension right in front of us

442
00:14:49,820 --> 00:14:48,390
now that's one of the theories I'm going

443
00:14:51,650 --> 00:14:49,830
to do a book on it I called the theory

444
00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:51,660
of wow I always hated acronyms so I

445
00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:54,810
called TTL W theory of wow so what

446
00:14:59,240 --> 00:14:57,210
they're doing is Jimmy church is here

447
00:15:00,650 --> 00:14:59,250
Jimmy Church has got a voice let's do

448
00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:00,660
something weird like in the prime

449
00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:02,670
example is the Nimitz so every saying

450
00:15:05,810 --> 00:15:04,110
you know Eric Davis is all then they're

451
00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:05,820
interfering with the Nimitz you know the

452
00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:07,500
the carrier group and interfering with

453
00:15:11,090 --> 00:15:09,690
our military operation the nothing's not

454
00:15:13,220 --> 00:15:11,100
even close to the truth they're out in

455
00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:13,230
international waters fishing sightseeing

456
00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:15,120
the UFOs or whatever and they sit there

457
00:15:18,140 --> 00:15:16,560
for a week they were there for a week

458
00:15:21,170 --> 00:15:18,150
before that thing got picked up and

459
00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:21,180
they're going hello we're over here yes

460
00:15:25,460 --> 00:15:23,250
and then finally they chase them and

461
00:15:27,410 --> 00:15:25,470
what do they do they drop from eighty

462
00:15:29,330 --> 00:15:27,420
thousand feet down to surface level in

463
00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:29,340
seven eighths of a second now is the

464
00:15:32,790 --> 00:15:31,140
same as yours why is this object going

465
00:15:34,019 --> 00:15:32,800
across the sky I

466
00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:34,029
because when I had been my first

467
00:15:37,889 --> 00:15:35,950
sighting the first night it blew me away

468
00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:37,899
but the second night as I was watching

469
00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:40,360
it fly away I'm thinking what the hell's

470
00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:42,490
it what's it doing it's not doing

471
00:15:45,780 --> 00:15:44,110
anything so we had a joke we said it's

472
00:15:47,190 --> 00:15:45,790
doing a beer run because it's coming

473
00:15:48,210 --> 00:15:47,200
from the United States we say it's

474
00:15:49,470 --> 00:15:48,220
coming to pick up beer and it's going

475
00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:49,480
back to the United States we couldn't

476
00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:50,800
figure out what's it doing so what is it

477
00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:52,810
doing it's almost like it's just there

478
00:15:57,329 --> 00:15:54,810
and it does something really weird

479
00:15:59,009 --> 00:15:57,339
because you're gonna tell the story it's

480
00:16:00,449 --> 00:15:59,019
like why sit the Linda how is it Linda

481
00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:00,459
why did they take the blood out of the

482
00:16:04,079 --> 00:16:02,110
cows when they mutilate them and why do

483
00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:04,089
they do these bizarre cuts because if

484
00:16:08,430 --> 00:16:05,410
they did if they didn't take the blood

485
00:16:12,210 --> 00:16:08,440
out it's just a cow it's just a cow in

486
00:16:13,530 --> 00:16:12,220
the desert or they do the one with it

487
00:16:15,660 --> 00:16:13,540
with the heart where they take the heart

488
00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:15,670
out of the cow without an incision well

489
00:16:17,490 --> 00:16:17,170
what do they need hearts I mean this is

490
00:16:19,170 --> 00:16:17,500
crazy

491
00:16:20,490 --> 00:16:19,180
they do it or why do they take the cow

492
00:16:22,410 --> 00:16:20,500
they've got the cow in the ship and they

493
00:16:23,579 --> 00:16:22,420
fly off to the mutilation why do they

494
00:16:25,530 --> 00:16:23,589
come back and drop it in the farmer's

495
00:16:27,329 --> 00:16:25,540
yard from 100 feet up or 200 feet up

496
00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:27,339
because they want Linda Howe and

497
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:28,810
everybody else to go take a picture of

498
00:16:31,620 --> 00:16:30,010
it they're trying to send a message and

499
00:16:33,060 --> 00:16:31,630
that's why I say it's a theory Wow

500
00:16:35,310 --> 00:16:33,070
it's almost like you've got these people

501
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:35,320
on earth and you can't you can't go and

502
00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:36,370
say we're here to freak bring you

503
00:16:39,569 --> 00:16:37,810
freedom and democracy Jesus and

504
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:39,579
McDonald's because you're gonna pull a

505
00:16:43,949 --> 00:16:41,680
gun and shoot them so you you do it

506
00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:43,959
indirectly and you get them to do all

507
00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:45,490
these things so it's like I say it's

508
00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:48,130
like a on a foreign planet they grade

509
00:16:52,019 --> 00:16:50,110
one classes oh let's put you a host

510
00:16:53,819 --> 00:16:52,029
let's put these things in the sky with

511
00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:53,829
lights on why do they have lights on

512
00:16:57,300 --> 00:16:55,600
them they don't need lights on them what

513
00:16:58,590 --> 00:16:57,310
and like John Lennon saw the one with

514
00:17:00,150 --> 00:16:58,600
the white lights around it the red light

515
00:17:01,530 --> 00:17:00,160
on top you don't need lights to fly

516
00:17:03,180 --> 00:17:01,540
through interstellar space they put

517
00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:03,190
lights on so you can see them it's all

518
00:17:06,299 --> 00:17:04,959
about you seeing them and telling the

519
00:17:07,919 --> 00:17:06,309
story and it's got to be bizarre so it

520
00:17:09,569 --> 00:17:07,929
has this trickster phenomena where it

521
00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:09,579
has to be really and the more bizarre it

522
00:17:13,169 --> 00:17:11,410
is the more people talk about it they're

523
00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:13,179
just doing these bizarre things to get

524
00:17:17,189 --> 00:17:15,130
you to understand we are not alone in

525
00:17:19,049 --> 00:17:17,199
the consciousness rises so that when a

526
00:17:20,549 --> 00:17:19,059
New York Times says we're investigating

527
00:17:21,569 --> 00:17:20,559
this people say yeah I know something's

528
00:17:23,220 --> 00:17:21,579
going on I've heard these weird stories

529
00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:23,230
and and that's all they're trying to do

530
00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:25,360
there's no message they're not trying to

531
00:17:28,260 --> 00:17:26,530
eat us they're not trying to do anything

532
00:17:30,030 --> 00:17:28,270
they're doing these weird things like

533
00:17:31,470 --> 00:17:30,040
skinwalker ranch why would you put the

534
00:17:33,570 --> 00:17:31,480
Bulls in the trailer they're saying

535
00:17:35,070 --> 00:17:33,580
watch this I mean this is really get

536
00:17:36,570 --> 00:17:35,080
their attention or the woman comes with

537
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:36,580
all the groceries puts all the groceries

538
00:17:39,900 --> 00:17:38,770
in away goes in that room comes back in

539
00:17:41,790 --> 00:17:39,910
all the groceries are back into the bag

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it's this trickster thing where people

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go you're not gonna believe what

542
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happened to me yesterday or

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synchronicities and they're doing

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bizarre things to get your attention and

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they're trying to drag us slowly through

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this consciousness-raising to realize

547
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something really weird is going on here

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and people start thinking about and when

549
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you come to the conclusion when I come

550
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to the conclusion you're not changing it

551
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but if someone else tells you you're

552
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just going to reject them and say go

553
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away yeah we had the most you know we

554
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had the Holy Grail siding grant middle

555
00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:09,880
of the day 30-40 people right in front

556
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of his clear blue sky moving slowly

557
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we're gonna watch this thing for the

558
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next hour we're gonna shoot video we're

559
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gonna do the end end and that was the

560
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moment and then it disappeared okay and

561
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that's the thing is they never they

562
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never stay around for an hour they

563
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always like is they not doing anything

564
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they come in for a couple seconds you

565
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see them and you get sort of amazed and

566
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then they disappear like they're not

567
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doing anything they're just coming in

568
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making you see them and then they

569
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disappear they're not going anywhere

570
00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:37,000
they're not picking any way out even

571
00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:38,320
like abduction how many people have ever

572
00:18:41,850 --> 00:18:40,480
seen anybody being abducted nobody they

573
00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:41,860
you never see this stuff they're just

574
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sort of going and they disappear very

575
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interesting let's take a break right

576
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here grant stay right there our guest

577
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tonight grant Cameron ayamaro subbu

578
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church this is fade to black yeah that's

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right we're gonna do five hours of

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discussion in two hours with crack

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camera tonight grant stay right there

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we'll be right back

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welcome back fade to black I am your

679
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host Jimmy Church I guess tonight grant

680
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Cameron always great when he's on the

681
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show and I had mentioned in my opening

682
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comments but one of the great things

683
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about grant is just being able to sit

684
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and have a conversation and that's what

685
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we're doing tonight and you guys you

686
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know in a virtual sense you're just

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sitting with us and living the

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conversation with us in real time and

689
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what if you were watching on the cameras

690
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I have a bunch of cameras here in the

691
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studio and I was showing Grant as some

692
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of the guitars here in the studio that's

693
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what we do during the break we're just

694
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having a conversation as friends and

695
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grant thank you so much it's always

696
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great having you on the show a

697
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skinwalker ranch and I want to shift

698
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gears to this because it seems that and

699
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this is me from the outside looking in

700
00:24:44,919 --> 00:24:40,070
but over the last year we had DeLong in

701
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his TV show on History Channel two years

702
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:47,660
two seasons of Project Blue Book which

703
00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:49,610
has been canceled I don't understand

704
00:24:57,490 --> 00:24:55,150
that and now we have a skinwalker and

705
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which is on history I haven't seen it

706
00:25:01,780 --> 00:24:59,630
yet by the way so I can't really make

707
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any objective comments on it but the

708
00:25:09,340 --> 00:25:05,330
point being it seems that the

709
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programming is being developed from like

710
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almost like the same group of people

711
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right that that is being put out there

712
00:25:22,330 --> 00:25:17,630
and do you think that we are going to

713
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just like the long series as skinwalkers

714
00:25:28,810 --> 00:25:24,440
kind of like it the long series too in a

715
00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:28,820
weird way indirectly but are we going to

716
00:25:35,230 --> 00:25:32,559
see results or is it going to be like

717
00:25:37,630 --> 00:25:35,240
Finding Bigfoot right where there's not

718
00:25:40,150 --> 00:25:37,640
going to be a conclusion and we are

719
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always going to be you know you just had

720
00:25:45,070 --> 00:25:43,280
a chasing the carrot yeah well I think I

721
00:25:46,510 --> 00:25:45,080
don't think we're gonna have solid

722
00:25:47,310 --> 00:25:46,520
conclusions I think it just keeps going

723
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I guess

724
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:49,690
little more detail a little more detail

725
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:52,810
like I remember back in 75 people don't

726
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realize because I've been at that long

727
00:25:59,250 --> 00:25:57,670
that everybody thinks what happened now

728
00:26:00,570 --> 00:25:59,260
happened then and it's like it's like a

729
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:00,580
totally different world that means ups

730
00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:03,070
in fact it was believed that UFO

731
00:26:08,730 --> 00:26:05,830
sightings were random events so if you

732
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if you saw one you were crazy I mean if

733
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you saw two did lock you out I mean you

734
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could never claim you saw two UFOs

735
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because it was so rare every thought is

736
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around an event and then when but about

737
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Hopkins comes along and writes missing

738
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time and and the intruders then every

739
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:22,570
suddenly realize like all these people

740
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are being taken over and over again and

741
00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:25,780
then we just bought into that but in 75

742
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nobody believed that and you see the the

743
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phenomena has changed in terms of what

744
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we believe we know so much more we

745
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didn't know any of the consciousness

746
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connections to it we didn't know about

747
00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:36,850
the missing time we didn't know like

748
00:26:40,170 --> 00:26:38,470
what the inside of the ship now we know

749
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:40,180
a lot of details about the inside the

750
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,710
ship you know it's like 500 watt light

751
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:43,360
bulbs the light doesn't come from

752
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:44,770
anywhere this it's almost like this

753
00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:46,480
description in the in a near-death

754
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:47,830
experience it's like I asked the people

755
00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:49,570
near-death experience it was really

756
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bright yeah was there a Sun no where was

757
00:26:54,570 --> 00:26:52,810
the light coming room I don't know it

758
00:26:56,130 --> 00:26:54,580
was coming the same description as the

759
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:56,140
UFO experience so there's all these

760
00:27:00,780 --> 00:26:58,330
details that we've got and yet things

761
00:27:03,270 --> 00:27:00,790
are changing almost like the phenomena

762
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:03,280
is changing as well because in in when I

763
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:04,960
started we had these ground traces

764
00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:06,310
member stand used to say this is the

765
00:27:09,660 --> 00:27:07,900
absolute physical evidence but these

766
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ground traces that lands burns out the

767
00:27:13,230 --> 00:27:11,290
thing leads the tribe that hasn't

768
00:27:15,090 --> 00:27:13,240
happened for twenty years at least

769
00:27:18,060 --> 00:27:15,100
there's been no ground traces and and

770
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:18,070
crop circles only started in 1982 the

771
00:27:22,770 --> 00:27:20,710
cattle mutilation only started in 67 in

772
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the 60s and 70s there was there was a

773
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stuff called age layer most people today

774
00:27:28,770 --> 00:27:27,010
we didn't know what angel hair was in

775
00:27:30,330 --> 00:27:28,780
our day we knew what it was or and it's

776
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:30,340
this idea where almost like they keep

777
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:32,710
changing the playbook and and they do

778
00:27:36,330 --> 00:27:34,570
these these weird sort of things now all

779
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:36,340
these people start coming forward with

780
00:27:38,970 --> 00:27:37,810
the orbs and with the light language

781
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:38,980
stuff I would never heard about light

782
00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:41,410
language until I heard Mary Rodwell had

783
00:27:45,270 --> 00:27:43,150
a bunch of kids it's five year old six

784
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:45,280
year old kids speaking this weird alien

785
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,110
language and then when I got that

786
00:27:50,310 --> 00:27:48,640
suddenly now I'm inundated with these

787
00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:50,320
people dead panels with these light

788
00:27:53,490 --> 00:27:52,150
language people and you see that the

789
00:27:55,020 --> 00:27:53,500
phenomena is is almost like it's getting

790
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:55,030
more complex and that they were

791
00:27:59,070 --> 00:27:57,610
revealing stuff that we we didn't know

792
00:28:01,170 --> 00:27:59,080
before almost like they're allowing us

793
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:01,180
to see things because people think all

794
00:28:05,490 --> 00:28:04,090
take the abductee and they stop them

795
00:28:07,230 --> 00:28:05,500
from remembering anything but that's not

796
00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:07,240
true because they don't remember it at

797
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:09,340
first but there's there's a lot of

798
00:28:12,780 --> 00:28:11,050
experiences where somebody is regressed

799
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,790
and they're their take they're putting

800
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:14,320
something in their leg or like an

801
00:28:16,830 --> 00:28:15,760
implant and they're saying it's now time

802
00:28:19,140 --> 00:28:16,840
for you to remember

803
00:28:20,910 --> 00:28:19,150
so people abductee people are at one

804
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:20,920
point they actually have it in dreams

805
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:22,510
they make you go to a psychiatrist they

806
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:24,010
they're driving you nuts you have these

807
00:28:27,450 --> 00:28:26,320
these terrible dreams and stuff Betty

808
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:27,460
and Barney Hill same thing where they

809
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:29,200
have these dreams and they couldn't get

810
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:30,370
them out of their head and they went and

811
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:32,170
then they find out what it would happen

812
00:28:37,050 --> 00:28:34,810
so they're forcing the issue they're

813
00:28:38,370 --> 00:28:37,060
blocking it in some aspects and they'll

814
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:38,380
actually tell that person the person

815
00:28:40,770 --> 00:28:39,730
will say well why are you teaching me

816
00:28:41,940 --> 00:28:40,780
all this stuff why are you taking me in

817
00:28:43,860 --> 00:28:41,950
the middle of night like all the time

818
00:28:45,060 --> 00:28:43,870
I'm I can't sleep you're taking me and

819
00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:45,070
stuff and they said when the time is

820
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:47,140
right you'll know to do and they do open

821
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,090
people up suddenly people remember what

822
00:28:54,210 --> 00:28:52,000
happened and so it's this gradual thing

823
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:54,220
that that the the government is doing

824
00:28:57,690 --> 00:28:56,080
this gradual disclosure but the the

825
00:28:59,160 --> 00:28:57,700
intelligence whatever it is it's doing

826
00:29:00,960 --> 00:28:59,170
the gradual disclosure as well and

827
00:29:03,390 --> 00:29:00,970
that's where the the skinwalker ranch

828
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,400
thing so it goes skinwalker you get them

829
00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:04,960
at skinwalker and all the stuff is going

830
00:29:09,870 --> 00:29:07,990
on and then it stops and then Bigelow

831
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:09,880
doesn't want to do it anymore he sells

832
00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:11,650
it and now they've got this thing I

833
00:29:15,740 --> 00:29:12,790
don't know if it's really that much

834
00:29:19,050 --> 00:29:15,750
going on like they're claiming but you

835
00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:19,060
the the the the the skinwalker thing

836
00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:20,350
happens all over the place I could talk

837
00:29:23,460 --> 00:29:21,160
about for example

838
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:23,470
oh this they followed the the special

839
00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:25,570
forces guys oh oh it's just it's the

840
00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:27,430
hitch-hiker thing it's oh it's terrible

841
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:28,990
let's follow these guys home and stuff

842
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:30,850
like that and it's like no and how

843
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:32,650
follows everybody when you become part

844
00:29:35,670 --> 00:29:34,210
of the phenomena you can actually say to

845
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:35,680
someone else you say I don't think I was

846
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:37,330
abducted I had a dream and then I say

847
00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:39,490
anything else weird happened you oh yeah

848
00:29:42,690 --> 00:29:40,990
and just I'll tell you everything ever

849
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:42,700
fall out of the sky or disappear or

850
00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:44,650
reappear in house oh yeah and the people

851
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:46,990
and there's all this weird stuff that's

852
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:48,850
a checker it's all the same thing and

853
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,520
with the skinwalker ranch one of the key

854
00:29:56,010 --> 00:29:52,960
things that I learned from skinwalker

855
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:56,020
was with George and absence because not

856
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:57,490
everybody had an experience there so

857
00:30:00,450 --> 00:29:59,170
he's saying oh it's the area it's the

858
00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:00,460
area and that's why they're having this

859
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:01,630
stuff because there's something in the

860
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:04,530
ground or whatever but john alexander

861
00:30:09,930 --> 00:30:08,050
needs he was the general manager

862
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:09,940
whatever for needs he was there all the

863
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:11,650
time George Knapp tells the story I was

864
00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:13,210
sitting out there with the bugs and he

865
00:30:14,850 --> 00:30:14,320
said I'm waiting for him to come to get

866
00:30:16,410 --> 00:30:14,860
me and

867
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:16,420
never saw a thing when I was there and

868
00:30:21,419 --> 00:30:18,970
then George Knapp said the guys who are

869
00:30:23,220 --> 00:30:21,429
the most aggressive to the phenomena had

870
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:23,230
the worst experiences and this is this

871
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:25,210
manifestation thing this is this idea

872
00:30:28,380 --> 00:30:26,650
that you are you are part of the

873
00:30:29,730 --> 00:30:28,390
phenomena you're having and now so I

874
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:29,740
said to them I said were these guys

875
00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:31,600
armed because he had special forces guys

876
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:34,270
man special forces guy were they armed

877
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:35,530
they were gonna go and you remember the

878
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:36,610
story where they're going down the

879
00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:38,410
portal opens and then they get this

880
00:30:42,270 --> 00:30:40,120
voice in their head and they say you are

881
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,280
to leave you are not welcome and these

882
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:44,080
special forces traumatized they go home

883
00:30:48,450 --> 00:30:46,510
and they have the port stuff they have

884
00:30:50,130 --> 00:30:48,460
the wine bottles flying across the room

885
00:30:52,049 --> 00:30:50,140
smashing against the wall and stuff like

886
00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:52,059
that at home and the people that they're

887
00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:53,260
living with actually move out because

888
00:30:57,450 --> 00:30:54,820
it's so paranormal it's so weird

889
00:31:00,299 --> 00:30:57,460
and so violent and and then you go back

890
00:31:02,909 --> 00:31:00,309
and you look at other examples like

891
00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:02,919
Michael Talbot Michael Talbot wrote the

892
00:31:05,549 --> 00:31:04,600
book the the holographic universe and

893
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:05,559
that's where we started getting this

894
00:31:09,930 --> 00:31:07,510
idea it may not be the work University

895
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:09,940
think Michael Talbot according to Linda

896
00:31:16,409 --> 00:31:13,990
Howe Budd Hopkins told her that he was a

897
00:31:18,659 --> 00:31:16,419
client that he was an abductee and he

898
00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:18,669
wrote this book and he says when he was

899
00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:20,950
a child like every other UFO experience

900
00:31:24,510 --> 00:31:22,600
he had poltergeist experiences in his

901
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:24,520
house there was gravel on the roof his

902
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:26,590
father would get these shovels of gravel

903
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:28,000
off the roof and stuff like that and he

904
00:31:31,770 --> 00:31:29,890
said when he was in a good mood the

905
00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:31,780
poltergeist was very playful and it

906
00:31:35,130 --> 00:31:33,460
would hang the socks off the plants and

907
00:31:36,780 --> 00:31:35,140
stuff like that but when he was in a bad

908
00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:36,790
mood he wake up with needle marks and

909
00:31:40,260 --> 00:31:38,740
pin marks in his arm and that's this

910
00:31:42,419 --> 00:31:40,270
whole thing with skinwalker ranch is

911
00:31:43,380 --> 00:31:42,429
that you are part of the phenomena so

912
00:31:45,390 --> 00:31:43,390
the people who were having the

913
00:31:47,010 --> 00:31:45,400
experiences were not George now were not

914
00:31:48,930 --> 00:31:47,020
John Alexander they were Erik Davis

915
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:48,940
Erik Davis is an experiencer he had this

916
00:31:52,860 --> 00:31:51,490
experience with a UFO over his head Dale

917
00:31:54,930 --> 00:31:52,870
had experience when he had his

918
00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:54,940
graduation party when he got his PhD him

919
00:31:57,930 --> 00:31:56,590
and his wife and nobody else saw it and

920
00:31:59,580 --> 00:31:57,940
they were sitting there and had lights

921
00:32:01,530 --> 00:31:59,590
on it and a big triangle comes flying

922
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:01,540
over he's an experiencer and that's what

923
00:32:05,669 --> 00:32:03,130
you start to see is that these

924
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:05,679
experiences are part of the story and

925
00:32:08,909 --> 00:32:06,970
and they're the ones that had the

926
00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:08,919
experience that skinwalker ranch his

927
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:13,919
skinwalker in your opinion is this an et

928
00:32:20,850 --> 00:32:17,770
story or is this a supernatural story I

929
00:32:22,830 --> 00:32:20,860
think it's more a poltergeist III get in

930
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:22,840
the book I think I know I'm doing a book

931
00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:24,490
on the ports of manifestations I think

932
00:32:31,050 --> 00:32:28,420
I've got 20 items so they had like

933
00:32:33,510 --> 00:32:31,060
the thing with the groceries then they

934
00:32:35,370 --> 00:32:33,520
had the post hole auger that ends up in

935
00:32:37,230 --> 00:32:35,380
the top of the tree dispute that's all

936
00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:37,240
apart manifestations it happens in

937
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:39,400
seances it happens around UFO

938
00:32:42,210 --> 00:32:40,810
experiences all the time they'll tell

939
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:42,220
you the same thing that these kind of

940
00:32:45,390 --> 00:32:43,090
things are appearing and disappearing

941
00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:45,400
stuffing and the Bulls was the was the

942
00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:47,230
catch and and then when they bring in

943
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:49,060
again you bring in the guy from the DIA

944
00:32:54,090 --> 00:32:51,370
the guy that were on the DIA program

945
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:54,100
before Elizondo he comes in and he sees

946
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:56,290
this infinity sign made out of metal he

947
00:32:59,640 --> 00:32:58,090
goes on to the ranch he gets brought on

948
00:33:00,990 --> 00:32:59,650
the ranch and he sees this and that's

949
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:01,000
when he decides they're gonna go in

950
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:02,590
there but that's all their interest

951
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:04,690
that's all dia and and and Jacques

952
00:33:08,250 --> 00:33:06,910
Vallee at one point said he was involved

953
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:08,260
in skinwalker ranch he centered about

954
00:33:12,270 --> 00:33:09,250
the only thing we didn't have at

955
00:33:15,390 --> 00:33:12,280
skinwalker ranch was UFOs and that's the

956
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:15,400
thing what I find so interesting about

957
00:33:19,470 --> 00:33:17,890
skinwalker because you and I have been

958
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:19,480
to different locations around the

959
00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:22,930
country where things seem to be location

960
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:26,230
specific I would say that that I'm

961
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:29,200
pretty confident in saying that at

962
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:33,850
skinwalker nothing in the sky right

963
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:35,590
everything is everything is on the

964
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:38,650
ground involving humans yeah and that's

965
00:33:42,390 --> 00:33:40,450
why dia was interested in it because of

966
00:33:44,070 --> 00:33:42,400
the military applications of putting

967
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:44,080
things through walls and making things

968
00:33:47,390 --> 00:33:46,150
appear and disappear I mean not you can

969
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:47,400
understand why they would be

970
00:33:51,870 --> 00:33:50,110
investigating that and every had has

971
00:33:54,060 --> 00:33:51,880
been turned into some like a UFO story

972
00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:54,070
and when you start to look I mean there

973
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:55,510
aren't you a host there's these orb

974
00:33:59,510 --> 00:33:57,610
things which are big part of the UFO

975
00:34:04,500 --> 00:33:59,520
phenomena but stuff on the ground

976
00:34:05,550 --> 00:34:04,510
portals may be related to and then again

977
00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:05,560
they would be very interested in the

978
00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:07,540
portal thing they even contacted me they

979
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:09,100
were sort of because I was I was

980
00:34:13,740 --> 00:34:11,169
following the mission Rama thing I sort

981
00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:13,750
of made that story public in the in the

982
00:34:16,409 --> 00:34:15,100
english-speaking world where they had

983
00:34:18,270 --> 00:34:16,419
these Enders where people are inside

984
00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:18,280
these Zend resilience are in there and

985
00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:20,230
there's seven people and they're seeing

986
00:34:25,169 --> 00:34:21,580
all this stuff and he can open up these

987
00:34:26,610 --> 00:34:25,179
end result or ttles and I know Pandolfi

988
00:34:28,290 --> 00:34:26,620
was really interested in that stuff in

989
00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:28,300
fact I've got him on camera the one time

990
00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:29,919
he's really really angry he was on a

991
00:34:34,050 --> 00:34:31,270
cruise ship going through the Panama

992
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:34,060
Canal and he's on camera the only time

993
00:34:37,710 --> 00:34:35,290
he's ever being caught on camera and

994
00:34:38,970 --> 00:34:37,720
that's where he says they can't put in

995
00:34:41,490 --> 00:34:38,980
this portal story out and then this

996
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:41,500
thing came and his wife says - okay foot

997
00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:42,090
man what do you

998
00:34:45,470 --> 00:34:43,980
say and that's his codename like he's

999
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:45,480
the foot man and she's the princess you

1000
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:46,650
know he's taking care of her whatever

1001
00:34:52,430 --> 00:34:48,930
and then he says he's sitting there and

1002
00:34:53,870 --> 00:34:52,440
he and he says you know everybody's

1003
00:34:54,530 --> 00:34:53,880
wondered what it's like to go into the

1004
00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:54,540
next world

1005
00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,060
and he says the next time John and this

1006
00:35:01,550 --> 00:34:59,520
John guy is a guy he went to UCLA I

1007
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:01,560
think with John he was a guy University

1008
00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:03,060
with him does John guy is sitting beside

1009
00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:04,500
him in Johnson in her clean he's lost

1010
00:35:08,330 --> 00:35:06,180
he's looking at him he says next time

1011
00:35:10,190 --> 00:35:08,340
John goes to the desert a number of

1012
00:35:12,590 --> 00:35:10,200
people in this room will go into the

1013
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:12,600
next world and come back again and so I

1014
00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:14,490
grabbed this he put on his wife's face

1015
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:15,990
book pack and I grabbed this thing and

1016
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:16,770
he was really angry

1017
00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:18,450
Maccabi insulting but he said that

1018
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:20,670
camera is a thief and it's like well he

1019
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:22,290
put on face and it's the only time I got

1020
00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:23,280
caught but he's talking about this

1021
00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:26,280
portal idea and and he kept repeating or

1022
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:28,230
even his daughter they get your image on

1023
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,000
with his daughter and his daughter is

1024
00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:31,920
like six years old and and they said you

1025
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:33,750
got a question for Joe for image he says

1026
00:35:37,390 --> 00:35:36,000
yeah she comes Isis how many hurdles do

1027
00:35:39,860 --> 00:35:37,400
you have in your house and I'm going a

1028
00:35:41,630 --> 00:35:39,870
six-year-old kid is saying that they're

1029
00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:41,640
talking there's something's going on and

1030
00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:43,140
so I hung onto that and that's that

1031
00:35:46,910 --> 00:35:44,760
whole thing that's what kid green says

1032
00:35:48,350 --> 00:35:46,920
when when Penniston said you're gonna

1033
00:35:49,550 --> 00:35:48,360
tell me what the hell's going on here he

1034
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:49,560
says propulsion so what'd he mean its

1035
00:35:51,530 --> 00:35:50,250
propulsion

1036
00:35:54,170 --> 00:35:51,540
he said we're trying to figure out how

1037
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:54,180
does it pop in and pop back out because

1038
00:35:57,860 --> 00:35:55,530
that's what it's doing it's not coming

1039
00:36:00,260 --> 00:35:57,870
it's not flying in it's what you saw it

1040
00:36:01,820 --> 00:36:00,270
pops in it disappears it reappears and

1041
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:01,830
it's almost like it goes into another

1042
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:05,490
dimension or something and NCI and KITT

1043
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:07,530
Green said there was eight guys working

1044
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,640
and it looks like they got Defense

1045
00:36:11,330 --> 00:36:10,320
Department money and they're working on

1046
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:11,340
this thing they're trying to figure out

1047
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:12,780
this thing how does it move in how does

1048
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:14,730
it move out any when you look at I know

1049
00:36:18,110 --> 00:36:16,260
if you heard the release tape that KITT

1050
00:36:20,030 --> 00:36:18,120
Green had leaked out and I got a hold

1051
00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:20,040
this tape I gave it to Burroughs bro

1052
00:36:22,820 --> 00:36:21,510
said no it's not kid green no no it's

1053
00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:22,830
that kid green and then he went to kick

1054
00:36:28,010 --> 00:36:25,320
green Creek and sad it's me and and on

1055
00:36:29,540 --> 00:36:28,020
the tape you think while they're doing

1056
00:36:31,070 --> 00:36:29,550
nuts and bolts and stuff like that

1057
00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:31,080
no they're doing skinwalker type stuff

1058
00:36:35,540 --> 00:36:32,460
they've got this woman her name is Kay

1059
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:35,550
Randall Mae and kid greens talking to

1060
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:37,710
her and it's on tape and then what kid

1061
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:39,090
Green says when he was confronted he

1062
00:36:42,860 --> 00:36:40,800
said well I'll tell you what the client

1063
00:36:43,820 --> 00:36:42,870
released the tape legally I can't talk

1064
00:36:45,740 --> 00:36:43,830
about it end of story

1065
00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:45,750
so he wouldn't refer but he's saying to

1066
00:36:51,110 --> 00:36:48,060
the woman he says you're 95% accurate

1067
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:51,120
and he said who are we dealing with and

1068
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:53,310
she says there's a portal off the coast

1069
00:36:57,970 --> 00:36:55,310
of California underwater

1070
00:37:00,250 --> 00:36:57,980
and and she's going I'm going Wow Issei

1071
00:37:02,140 --> 00:37:00,260
this is kick green ran you know life

1072
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:02,150
sciences at the CIA was the head of the

1073
00:37:06,730 --> 00:37:03,890
weird desk and he's talking to this

1074
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:06,740
woman like in woo land and he's talking

1075
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:08,630
to her trying to get answers utter it's

1076
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:10,160
the same thing as Chris but so you go to

1077
00:37:14,530 --> 00:37:11,930
these people you got in the field she's

1078
00:37:16,450 --> 00:37:14,540
in the field she's a medium she's a very

1079
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:16,460
accurate and then he starts talking

1080
00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:18,170
about this test and I remember of this

1081
00:37:20,650 --> 00:37:19,160
test they were gonna run with the

1082
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,660
Chinese get green was gonna run this

1083
00:37:25,210 --> 00:37:22,640
test with the Chinese we're what they do

1084
00:37:27,010 --> 00:37:25,220
is they put one person in in an MRI

1085
00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:27,020
then they put another person in the MRI

1086
00:37:30,910 --> 00:37:28,880
and they were gonna do it from China to

1087
00:37:32,290 --> 00:37:30,920
America and then the one person would

1088
00:37:33,850 --> 00:37:32,300
send a telepathic message to the other

1089
00:37:35,620 --> 00:37:33,860
and they would have the MRI and they

1090
00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:35,630
would be able to see his consciousness

1091
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:37,640
non-local does it take time for the

1092
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:38,810
signal to go across or is it

1093
00:37:42,490 --> 00:37:40,730
instantaneous and on this tape he's

1094
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:42,500
talking about putting this woman in one

1095
00:37:46,270 --> 00:37:44,810
MRI and putting Uri Geller in the MRI

1096
00:37:47,950 --> 00:37:46,280
and uri geller is not bringing his

1097
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:47,960
cameras in to film this thing cuz you're

1098
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:49,130
he always must be on camera and stuff

1099
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:50,510
and he's not bringing his cameras he's

1100
00:37:53,650 --> 00:37:51,890
not going to be doing this and they were

1101
00:37:54,910 --> 00:37:53,660
gonna run this experiment again and i

1102
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:54,920
don't know what happened to it but you

1103
00:38:00,160 --> 00:37:57,290
see this thing where when i start to see

1104
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,170
those kind of leaks then i see that then

1105
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:02,240
they understand there's something really

1106
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:04,130
weird there's a phenomena going on and

1107
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:05,930
that's why they're looking at the DNA of

1108
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:08,330
the of the experiences and look at the

1109
00:38:12,190 --> 00:38:10,160
MRI is there something in the brain that

1110
00:38:13,660 --> 00:38:12,200
that's an antenna that's picking up the

1111
00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:13,670
signal because they're trying to figure

1112
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:15,950
out how do they make this connection and

1113
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:18,290
everything they learn can be turned into

1114
00:38:22,930 --> 00:38:20,930
weapons it can be turned into you know

1115
00:38:24,490 --> 00:38:22,940
information and they're trying to figure

1116
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:24,500
out how the universe works and that's

1117
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:25,970
why i sort of gets frustrated a lot time

1118
00:38:29,350 --> 00:38:27,710
or the UFO community that people are

1119
00:38:31,330 --> 00:38:29,360
into like the sightings and stuff and

1120
00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:31,340
it's fine it's sightings whatever but we

1121
00:38:35,620 --> 00:38:33,230
what we do in documentaries is we keep

1122
00:38:38,020 --> 00:38:35,630
doing the same thing so we do Rendlesham

1123
00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:38,030
we do Roswell now we got Nimitz and then

1124
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:39,950
we do Travis Walton and then the next

1125
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,970
series comes up and then we do

1126
00:38:44,620 --> 00:38:43,280
Rendlesham we do Travis Walton and we

1127
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:44,630
tell the same stories over and over

1128
00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:46,610
again instead of saying okay UFOs are

1129
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,590
real even now the government has said

1130
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:50,480
UFOs are real and people are still out

1131
00:38:54,010 --> 00:38:52,400
there trying to get more cases to prove

1132
00:38:56,140 --> 00:38:54,020
UFOs are real and it's almost like the

1133
00:38:57,850 --> 00:38:56,150
Rodney Dangerfield I always say people

1134
00:38:59,950 --> 00:38:57,860
should be like me where the thing was

1135
00:39:01,780 --> 00:38:59,960
right in my face the first time I saw it

1136
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:01,790
and then you don't you never worry about

1137
00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:03,680
is it real but P+ almost like they they

1138
00:39:06,250 --> 00:39:05,240
feel bad because they're in the UFO

1139
00:39:08,110 --> 00:39:06,260
field and they're trying to prove it to

1140
00:39:09,339 --> 00:39:08,120
their friends and neighbors and they say

1141
00:39:12,130 --> 00:39:09,349
Floyd your friends and they

1142
00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:12,140
get beyond the UFO it's real let's try

1143
00:39:16,539 --> 00:39:13,910
to figure out now why they here what's

1144
00:39:18,339 --> 00:39:16,549
going on and majority UFO community they

1145
00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:18,349
say well that's anecdotal well it's all

1146
00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:20,630
anecdotal you saw UFO sighting the

1147
00:39:25,210 --> 00:39:22,880
Nimitz thing was you know has the film

1148
00:39:26,890 --> 00:39:25,220
you're taking their word for it the

1149
00:39:29,140 --> 00:39:26,900
pilots you're taking their word for it

1150
00:39:32,170 --> 00:39:29,150
it in in it's all going to be belief

1151
00:39:34,210 --> 00:39:32,180
systems but we have to get past just the

1152
00:39:37,089 --> 00:39:34,220
how many green ones and red ones and

1153
00:39:39,130 --> 00:39:37,099
fast ones and slow ones and I realize

1154
00:39:40,359 --> 00:39:39,140
that the experiencers unlike the

1155
00:39:42,130 --> 00:39:40,369
government the experiences the people

1156
00:39:44,019 --> 00:39:42,140
are interacting with the intelligence

1157
00:39:45,819 --> 00:39:44,029
and there's a lot of them that they're

1158
00:39:47,230 --> 00:39:45,829
telling the truth and that you can learn

1159
00:39:48,309 --> 00:39:47,240
something from them and they will tell

1160
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:48,319
you the government won't tell you what's

1161
00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:49,970
going on but the experience yours will

1162
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,470
tell you when you sit with Chris Bledsoe

1163
00:39:55,509 --> 00:39:53,119
and you start hearing the people around

1164
00:39:57,009 --> 00:39:55,519
him and who comes to investigate and all

1165
00:39:59,289 --> 00:39:57,019
the stuff that's happened around him

1166
00:40:01,839 --> 00:39:59,299
you start to realize this guy's in

1167
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:01,849
contact with something and he's clearly

1168
00:40:06,279 --> 00:40:04,490
got some sort of connection and if you

1169
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:06,289
could figure it out then you're going to